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Re: Hypothes.is annotations not visible even though public

Anna Mills
 

More info from Michael at the Hypothes.is help center:
"Below is a sum up of what we discovered. Even though we discussed it, I've written things out so that it's easier to send the bits along to libretexts that you think you'll need.


When you were writing annotations, it was on sites with URLs like:

It looks like the URL has since changed. When I try to go to the above link, I'm forwarded to:

Note that the text "(Mills)" has moved from "How_Arguments_Work_(Mills)" to "Texts_in_College_(Mills)". Hypothesis anchors annotations by looking at the URL and then finding text on the page, and we can't find the correct page anymore because of that change.

Here are two possible ways of fixing this issue:
  1. Find a way to revert back to using the old URL. While I don't know how libretext works, I'm guessing a title or an internal setting may have been changed that then was reflected in the changed URL. Changing it back might be all that's needed.
  2. Have the website publisher establish document equivalency between the two web pages.
    1. Here is our article on doing so, with the recommended way being that website publishers use Highwire Press tags or Dublin Core metadata.
    2. Alternately, here is our article on how Hypothesis interacts with document metadata. Libretexts is already using the HTML tag <canonical>, but maybe it can be reused to establish document equivalence."


Hypothes.is annotations not visible even though public

Anna Mills
 

I'm trying to view hypothes.is annotations in a private feedback group.  They show up in the page that lists all annotations for that group, but when I click on "View annotation in context," whether the annotation is my own or an editor's, the hypothes.is window on the LibreTexts page says "You do not have permission to view this annotation."  Any ideas?  I've searched hypothes.is help and found nothing.  The editor submitted a help ticket but hasn't heard back.
Thanks!
Anna Mills


Re: Front and Back Matter?

Mark Baillie
 

Thanks for the information. So for each “book”, will this information pull from the page settings or somewhere else, or will we need to add these pieces of information manually?

Mark Baillie, Ph.D.
Department of Chemistry, Assistant Professor
https://ualr.edu/chemistry/
STEM Education Center, STRIVE Program Director
University of Arkansas at Little Rock
501-301-4695
 




On Dec 13, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Delmar Larsen via Groups.Io <dlarsen@...> wrote:

Mostly for printing issues:

Front matter:

  • TitlePage (mandatory)
  • InfoPage (mandatory)
  • Table of Contents (mandatory)
  • About this Book (optional)
  • Preface (optional)
  • About the Author(s) (optional)
  • etc

Back Matter

  • Index (will be mandatory and based off of the mata-tags of the pages in the text)
  • Glossary (optional)
  • Appendices (optional)





Re: Front and Back Matter?

Delmar Larsen <dlarsen@...>
 

Mostly for printing issues:

Front matter:

  • TitlePage (mandatory)
  • InfoPage (mandatory)
  • Table of Contents (mandatory)
  • About this Book (optional)
  • Preface (optional)
  • About the Author(s) (optional)
  • etc

Back Matter

  • Index (will be mandatory and based off of the mata-tags of the pages in the text)
  • Glossary (optional)
  • Appendices (optional)




Re: Front and Back Matter?

Mark Baillie
 

What is their purpose? 

Mark Baillie, Ph.D.
Department of Chemistry, Assistant Professor
https://ualr.edu/chemistry/
STEM Education Center, STRIVE Program Director
University of Arkansas at Little Rock
501-301-4695
 




On Dec 13, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Delmar Larsen via Groups.Io <dlarsen@...> wrote:

If you have uploaded your books to the Download center (via the meta-tag "Cover Page"), then they come up. We can erase them and flip the switch or "hide" them so no one can view them.

On 12/13/2019 12:27 PM, Mark Baillie wrote:
This fall I saw a number of my LibreText sites have a "Front Matter" and "Back Matter" page added. What are these, do we need them, and if not how do we get rid of them without having them automatically added again?

Here are two examples: 
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Education_and_Professional_Development/Mobile_Summer_Institute_on_Scientific_Teaching/Generic
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Courses/Mobile_Summer_Institute_on_Scientific_Teaching/UA_Little_Rock_MoSI

Thanks - mark
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Re: Front and Back Matter?

Delmar Larsen <dlarsen@...>
 

If you have uploaded your books to the Download center (via the meta-tag "Cover Page"), then they come up. We can erase them and flip the switch or "hide" them so no one can view them.

On 12/13/2019 12:27 PM, Mark Baillie wrote:
This fall I saw a number of my LibreText sites have a "Front Matter" and "Back Matter" page added. What are these, do we need them, and if not how do we get rid of them without having them automatically added again?

Here are two examples: 
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Education_and_Professional_Development/Mobile_Summer_Institute_on_Scientific_Teaching/Generic
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Courses/Mobile_Summer_Institute_on_Scientific_Teaching/UA_Little_Rock_MoSI

Thanks - mark
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LibreText, Founder & Executive Director
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The Future is Open

Weekly Libretexts Office Hours Zoom meetings (open to all): 
  * Tuesdays (https://zoom.us/j/380504419) at 9:00am (PDT)
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Front and Back Matter?

Mark Baillie
 

This fall I saw a number of my LibreText sites have a "Front Matter" and "Back Matter" page added. What are these, do we need them, and if not how do we get rid of them without having them automatically added again?

Here are two examples: 
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Education_and_Professional_Development/Mobile_Summer_Institute_on_Scientific_Teaching/Generic
https://socialsci.libretexts.org/Courses/Mobile_Summer_Institute_on_Scientific_Teaching/UA_Little_Rock_MoSI

Thanks - mark


Re: Is there a way to do a search within a specific course or book? #courseshells

Dorte Madsen
 

The best way to do that is actually to simply do a regular google search and include "site:link to the book" after the search term.

 

For example:
entropy site:chem.libretexts.org/Courses/University_of_California_Davis/UCD_Chem_002B

gives only search results for entropy within Delmar's 2B class. 


Is there a way to do a search within a specific course or book? #courseshells

Anna Mills
 

...I looked at the filters and I see an author variable but not a book or course title.  Am I missing something? Thanks!
Anna Mills


Re: #Formatting #Formatting

Anna Mills
 

Thanks. Great that the font size may soon be flexible. As far as the extra space, I mean that multiple sections within a chapter could appear on one page.  After one section ends, another could start immediately below. I was also hoping that the sections could start right after the chapter's table of contents on the same page.


Re: #Formatting #Formatting

Delmar Larsen <dlarsen@...>
 


On 11/23/2019 4:04 PM, Anna Mills wrote:
Is there a way to remove automatic page breaks in the PDF and Lulu versions of a textbook?  I'm hoping to take out the automatic break after the list of sections in a chapter and the automatic break after each section.  Sometimes there seems to be an automatic break after a graphic.  I'd love to get rid of the white space and make sure not to waste paper. 

If you mean the extra space at the end of each page, then we won't be able to change that easily. We could combine all the pages together into a single page and then print, but we will have to change the autonumbering system. Perhaps, but not immediately.


I'm also wondering if there is a way to increase the font size on the main text of the book for easier reading.

Yes. We are planning to make custom CSS for each text to handle things like this. Give us a week or two.


I've checked the Contruction Guide page on publishing to Lulu XPress (https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/Remixer_University/Construction_Guide/7%3A_Disseminating_Texts_and_Course_Shells/6.2%3A_How_to_Publish_to_Lulu_xPress).

Yes, this is before uploading to Lulu and is not mentioned in the Construction Guide.


#Formatting #Formatting

Anna Mills
 

Is there a way to remove automatic page breaks in the PDF and Lulu versions of a textbook?  I'm hoping to take out the automatic break after the list of sections in a chapter and the automatic break after each section.  Sometimes there seems to be an automatic break after a graphic.  I'd love to get rid of the white space and make sure not to waste paper. 

I'm also wondering if there is a way to increase the font size on the main text of the book for easier reading.

I've checked the Contruction Guide page on publishing to Lulu XPress (https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/Remixer_University/Construction_Guide/7%3A_Disseminating_Texts_and_Course_Shells/6.2%3A_How_to_Publish_to_Lulu_xPress). 

Thanks for any ideas!
Anna Mills


Re: Regarding assessment creation in LibreTexts

Delmar Larsen <dlarsen@...>
 

Currently the Common Cartridge output for LMS is set up for the text part and not the rest of the Course Shell. There is no limitation in our current organization to using the full shell. I am unsure how it would look though since Common Cartridge has a two level heirarchy and a different approach is needed. We are working on that for a different K12 project though, so things will change soon.

Importing Quizing may be more complicated depending which system we use. Stay tuned on that.


Regarding assessment creation in LibreTexts

pbmac
 


So if I look at: https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/University_of_California_Davis/UCD_Chem_002A/UCD_Chem_2A

I see an agenda, homework, and worksheets. How do these show up in Canvas if I import the Common Cartridge for this course? Does homework get imported as Canvas Assignments?? Can I create quizzes in LibreTexts that get imported into Canvas Quizzes??

Thanks
Pat


Re: Problem with transclude and forker functions? #transclusion #bugs

Seeburger, Paul (Mathematics)
 

That's an excellent idea, Dorte!

I really like it!!

And providing a way to jump to the source to edit there would be so helpful!

It just needs to be clear which is happening.

Paul


Re: Problem with transclude and forker functions? #transclusion #bugs

Dorte Madsen
 

I think the "forking" option should simply appear when you try to edit a transcluded page. I hope that is possible. Ideally it would ask "Do you want to create a copy of the page (i.e. fork the page) or edit the original".

On 11/15/2019 10:00 AM, Seeburger, Paul (Mathematics) wrote:

I agree that these two features need to be working well and consistently. 

 

I'm ok with changing the location of the fork option, although I have to say that it seems to make more sense to keep it where it is next to the title than to be in the options list.  Maybe we could place two links there (next to the title), one linking to the source and the other to do the fork.

 

When I see "fork" on the options list, I assume that it means I want to fork the current page (not convert it to a fork of the source I don't see).  I think of it as a copy-full option.

 

At the very least, I would recommend that the fork option not be included in the Options list for a page that is not itself transcluded.  I think this is just leading to confusion.

 

Paul

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Re: Problem with transclude and forker functions? #transclusion #bugs

Seeburger, Paul (Mathematics)
 

I agree that these two features need to be working well and consistently. 

 

I'm ok with changing the location of the fork option, although I have to say that it seems to make more sense to keep it where it is next to the title than to be in the options list.  Maybe we could place two links there (next to the title), one linking to the source and the other to do the fork.

 

When I see "fork" on the options list, I assume that it means I want to fork the current page (not convert it to a fork of the source I don't see).  I think of it as a copy-full option.

 

At the very least, I would recommend that the fork option not be included in the Options list for a page that is not itself transcluded.  I think this is just leading to confusion.

 

Paul


Re: Problem with transclude and forker functions? #transclusion #bugs

Delmar Larsen <dlarsen@...>
 

On 11/15/2019 7:44 AM, Kathryn Haas wrote:
1) Forking: Over the last few days I find that the forker button no longer works to fork pages with content re-use. This is a problem for me on both Safari and Chrome browsers.
On which pages? Does the Forker option under the "Options" menu have the effect you expect? I am toying with the idea of switching the forker button next to the icon to a link to the source material instead and use the Forker option on the Options menu instead.



2) During the workshop at SMC yesterday, we noticed that the "copy-transclude" function was also not working.
We are aware of this and probably should disable this option until we get it looking and working like Copy option


Problem with transclude and forker functions? #transclusion #bugs

Kathryn Haas
 

1) Forking: Over the last few days I find that the forker button no longer works to fork pages with content re-use. This is a problem for me on both Safari and Chrome browsers. 

2) During the workshop at SMC yesterday, we noticed that the "copy-transclude" function was also not working.

Both seems to be a systemic problem across all libraries, and browser independent. Are other people having similar issues?


Re: New box container

Delmar Larsen <dlarsen@...>
 

The box I mentioned was meant so that people can add interactive content that has no reason to print up in PDFs.

We have several PDF output options including a combined PDF and a zip file of PDFs of all pages in your book (once added to the download center). If you want to chat about that, let me know.

Delmar

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