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I favor flexibility and allowing faculty to chose their
However, having the questions in one area in a chapter provides
that flexibility as we can transclude them back in.
If you want to keep a set of problems together with the page, one
option is a subpage of each page with the select problems. See the
Oregon Institute of Tech chem book.
I added you guys to the the Construction Forum and the internal
group discussions. By cc'ing the relevant groups in the email the
discussions can be maintained for future review (to avoid
On 2/13/2019 12:41 PM, Dr. Dietmar
1) I'm not convinced
that exclusively putting all the exercises into one section on
its own at the end of a chapter is optimal. I think when new
concepts and content are introduced, having a couple of
exercises in close proximity is helpful to the learning
process. If there is too much separation I worry that it
becomes harder for some students to 'get' the material. Even
in the original McMurry text there are imbedded problems in
the text of the chapter, as well as end-of-chapter exercises.
I would suggest we keep
at least a couple of exercises in each section. We could then
incorporate these (again) at the end of the chapter in its own
section, while also providing additional questions that draw
on multiple parts of the chapter and/or are cognitively higher
order questions (rather than drills). It would allow all the
questions to be in one area for those students who just want
access to that without having to wade through all the text.
A big question here
(Delmar) is what is the best strategy to house the exercises
and solutions? Would it be one big chunk for each chapter? Or
is there a way to tag individual questions, so profs using the
McMurry map as a source for their own custom textbook could
pick and choose what is included (via transclusion?). The
former big-chunk methodology would be easier for us, but it
would require instructors to either assign specific exercises
by number or cut and paste individual exercises.
2) If you go to Section
5.2 (link below) and scroll down to Example 5.2.1,
you will see a question and a hidden answer which is revealed
when you click on it. You can create these yourself in the
editing mode. Click on the "Elements" tab at the top of the
page and select "Templates" from the menu that pops up. Then
select the "AddDefinitionList" template from the drop down
menu. the template will be embedded wherever your cursor was
on the text of the page. You can then add your own content.
Dr. Dietmar Kennepohl FCIC
Professor of Chemistry
Morsch, Layne A. <lmorsc1@...>
Sent: February 13, 2019 7:45 AM
To: Dr. Dietmar Kennepohl; Kelly Matthews; Delmar
Larsen; Daniel Berger
Subject: Re: McMurry text next steps
This message said that it failed to send, so if you get
it twice, I apologize.
The following directions came from a calculus text, but
it seems like it would be valuable to follow this idea
for all texts and in our case, McMurry.
At this point, I'd like
to see the exercise sets collected in one page at
the end of each chapter, although those in Chapter 3
seem to be at the end of each section. If these are
unedited, you can pull those out to a single page
like the others, if you have time.
Then for each set,
please number the problems consecutively starting at
1. I believe every odd question in this book has an
answer. Please place these in hidden Answer code
below each question where a solution is provided.
What sounds like it may be helpful is to have
for each chapter of McMurry a final section that is
Exercises. And have the page transcluded directly from the
Exercises source page.
These are the homework exercises to accompany
the Textmap for McMurry's Organic Chemistry
Dietmar - Is there a way to explain to
everyone how to do this (transcluding content)? I have
copied and pasted from one page to another, but never
linked to the original page while editing.
I think Dietmar’s suggestion 3 is best. Let’s
try to upload any missing images directly to the page as
well as any images that don’t seem to follow standard
I think we all agreed to use ACS Document
style 1996 which exists in ChemDraw and ChemDoodle - here
are the details from ACS about this style in case you want
to set it yourself in any program.
Prepare chemical structures according to the guidelines
below. These parameters are specifically for ChemDraw
(make sure to use the ACS-1996 document settings);
authors using other drawing packages should adapt these
parameters to their systems.
||18% of width
||14.4 pt (0.2 in.)
||2.0 pt (0.0278 in.)
||0.6 pt (0.0083 in.)
||1.6 pt (0.0222 in.)
||2.5 (0.0345 in.)
||Helvetica (Mac), Arial (PC)
|Under the preferences
I think the default would be to not show
hydrogens on carbon unless that hydrogen is being
discussed. Also not labeling any C unless there is an
important reason. I think this is especially true after
chapter 3 or 4 when the C and H labels are still being
used to define structural aspects.
(an example of structures that should be
replaced section 4.1 introduction where is shows the 4
Layne A. Morsch
Department of Chemistry
The University of Illinois - Springfield
MS HSB 314
One University Plaza
Springfield, IL 62703
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